{"id":10431,"date":"2022-12-15T12:47:57","date_gmt":"2022-12-15T16:47:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/?p=10431"},"modified":"2022-12-15T12:59:17","modified_gmt":"2022-12-15T16:59:17","slug":"confusion-reined-due-in-no-small-part-to-me","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/2022\/12\/15\/confusion-reined-due-in-no-small-part-to-me\/","title":{"rendered":"Confusion reigned, due in no small part to me"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I was surprised at how my inquiry about a slip and fall accident turned out, and liked what I learned about setting up Zoom and Teams&#8217; meetings.    <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I came out of the incident determined to prevent similar hiccups in the future with other people and groups I meet virtually.  For sure during Zoom and Teams&#8217; meetings about forensic engineering investigation.  It was a small hiccup but troublesome.  And all this in the run up to <strong><span class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">the<\/span><\/strong> <strong><span class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Christmas season<\/span><\/strong>, a joyous time of the year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I was referred to a lawyer and her firm by colleagues who had been approached about investigating the cause of a slip and fall accident.  They recognized it was outside their area of expertise and suggested I get in touch with the firm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I called and we chatted.  I learned that the firm may have found an expert. This was fine.  I recommended peer review of the expert&#8217;s investigation because there are many elements in slip and fall accidents and different approaches to investigating cause.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She suggested a Microsoft Teams meeting to discuss this.  We looked at some dates and I suggested one that fit my schedule a couple of days later.  She got back to me later in the day to confirm this time was good after conferring with her colleague, a partner in the firm.  I noted the time in my journal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I sat at my desk at the appointed time a couple of days later and waited for an email with the Teams link &#8230; and waited and waited.  Sometime after the agreed time I went onto other work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The next day I called and left a voice mail as to whether I had misunderstood the time of our Teams&#8217; meeting.  Three days later I sent an email inquiring.  The telephone number and email address worked in setting up the Teams meeting, why not now?  Hmmm?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(I learned later &#8211; see below &#8211; that my contact had called when I didn&#8217;t link in, and I missed the call)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A good month passed during which I was troubled by what had happened.  I also wondered how the young lawyer and her colleague had processed this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I decided to check the emails again in setting up the Teams meeting.  Maybe I checked more thoroughly this time.  The penny dropped as I scrolled well down the email page to near my contact&#8217;s signature, and somewhat below the text about the meeting time two days hence.  I saw a Teams link in the earlier exchange of emails.  I remembered seeing at the time what looked like a link but, if I might be allowed some slack, in a quick read no indication it was for a Teams meeting two days later.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It didn&#8217;t help that three organizations that I Zoom with weekly and monthly  send out a link one or two days early.  Then send out a reminder on the meeting day.  New meeting technology, new protocols.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This was the first time a misunderstanding like this happened in my years of consulting practice.  I wondered, would I still be a bit troubled months from now about the mistake if one side or the other in this matter called me about a peer review?  I wouldn&#8217;t, seeing as I carried some of the burden, also because I&#8217;m too interested in just doing my work &#8211; engineers are like that, to a fault.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(<strong><span class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">A little aside<\/span><\/strong> but a little related.  I was at an Engineers Nova Scotia <strong><span class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Christmas social<\/span><\/strong> in Halifax in all that rain last Thursday evening.  Much of the talk was the engineering projects we worked on in the past and what we&#8217;re doing now that has some engineering in it.  Engineers are like that, talking shop all the time.  <span class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\"><strong>Santa Claus<\/strong><\/span><strong><span class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\"> <\/span><\/strong>was no where to be seen or heard.  This was the case for young and older engineers alike, male and female, and all ethnic groups &#8211; we&#8217;re a nice mixed bag of engineers Down East)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What about the young lawyer?  How did she process this?  Fortunately we were in touch early last week and chatted and know a mistake was made.  I also learned that they telephoned when I didn&#8217;t show up for the Teams&#8217; meeting.  I didn&#8217;t answer as I tend to shy away when I don&#8217;t recognize the number &#8211; too much spam out there.  I do look at all email &#8211; it glares at you from the Inbox.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Think we shared the cause of the mistake but with me carrying the greater burden by not scrolling all the way to the bottom of the e-page and paying closer attention to what was there.   <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At the end of the day, I&#8217;m okay with the effect of this on me &#8211; a learning experience.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><span class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\">The take-away?<\/span><\/strong> Draw attention to the link on the day the meeting is set up, and follow up with a reminder near the top of the e-page on the day of the Teams or Zoom meeting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>(Posted by Eric E. Jorden, M.Sc., P.Eng. Consulting Professional Engineer, Forensic Engineer, Geotechnology Ltd., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. December 15, 2022 <strong><span class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">ejorden@eastlink.ca<\/span><\/strong>)&nbsp; &nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was surprised at how my inquiry about a slip and fall accident turned out, and liked what I learned about setting up Zoom and Teams&#8217; meetings. 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