{"id":7425,"date":"2019-05-31T15:43:38","date_gmt":"2019-05-31T18:43:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/?p=7425"},"modified":"2019-05-31T15:43:39","modified_gmt":"2019-05-31T18:43:39","slug":"how-is-death-investigation-like-forensic-engineering-investigation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/2019\/05\/31\/how-is-death-investigation-like-forensic-engineering-investigation\/","title":{"rendered":"How is death investigation like forensic engineering investigation?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was struck by a death investigator&#8217;s remark because it seemed to echo our care in forensic work to avoid any perception of bias.\u00a0 I wondered, does a medical examiner need to be on guard investigating death?\u00a0 Like, is there sometimes pressure to lean one way or the other in their findings?<\/p>\n<p>Now, a few days later, I&#8217;m thinking the death investigator was referring to the pressure to work fast.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><strong>I was touring the medical examiner services facility<\/strong> <\/span>in Halifax and also took in a talk by Dr. Eveline Gallant, one of the examiners.\u00a0 This is where medical examiners do autopsies to determine the cause and manner of death after examining a body at the scene.<\/p>\n<p>Examiners can do four autopsies at a time at this facility, one of the best in the country, I understand.\u00a0 The facility also has a restful place for the examiners considering the work they do and the way they get their hands dirty and blood on their boots.\u00a0 They also have a comfortable room for the family of the dead.<\/p>\n<p>The fact there must be a capability to do four autopsies at the same time makes me think there&#8217;s a time-pressure on an examiner.<\/p>\n<p>My tour was in connection with work I do for the Halifax Regional Police Victim Services unit.\u00a0 I was one of a number on the tour that included RCMP officers as well.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><strong>Dr. Gallant&#8217;s power point was excellent.\u00a0<\/strong><\/span> Good graphics and good fill-in comment by Eveline.\u00a0 At one point I was struck by something she said to the effect, &#8220;We answer to no one when investigating death&#8221;, prompting this short blog. The thorough pursuit of the cause and manner of death is what it&#8217;s all about.\u00a0 I&#8217;m thinking now she and her colleagues push back against the pressure of time.<\/p>\n<p>(I did a tiny bit of push-back myself recently in a case I&#8217;ve got providing expert services in a dispute involving a structure and a looming court date, and my well informed client understood when I explained)\u00a0 \u00a0.<\/p>\n<p>I thought, how Dr. Gallant&#8217;s understanding of the way it must be in her work was like the charge to an expert to serve the court thoroughly and objectively.<\/p>\n<p>Another comment by Dr. Gallant resonated with me, <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><strong>&#8220;100% certainty is not necessary in death determination.&#8221;\u00a0 <\/strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">That is also true in forensic work.<\/span><\/span>\u00a0 We often deal with messy nature and the answers are less than 100% certain.\u00a0 .<\/p>\n<p>Also, I noted how the many specialists a medical examiner like Eveline must rely on at times echos the many a forensic engineer must call on.\u00a0 <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><strong>The two of us<\/strong> <\/span>in our respective fields know quite a lot, including not forgetting we <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><strong>are <em>principal investigators<\/em> <\/strong><\/span>who call on other specialists when required &#8211; we don&#8217;t know everything.<\/p>\n<p>I think death investigators and forensic engineers also know &#8211; while mindful of the time constraints on our associates and clients &#8211; that investigations can&#8217;t be hurried.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><strong>Death investigation is a lot like forensic investigation<\/strong><\/span> as I learned during Dr. Gallant&#8217;s remarks and her guided tour, right down to being careful of perceived bias.\u00a0 Actually, right down to the fact <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><strong>we&#8217;re both investigating a problem with a structure<\/strong><\/span> in the built environment &#8211; the one, a body structure and the other, for example, a building structure.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bibliography<\/strong><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Gallant, Eveline, MD, <em>Lecture and Tour: Death Investigation at the Medical Examiner&#8217;s Facility<\/em>, Halifax 2019<\/li>\n<li>Siegel, Jay A.,\u00a0<em>Forensic Science, the Basics,<\/em>\u00a02nd ed., Chap. 10,\u00a0<em>Forensic Pathology,<\/em>\u00a0CRC Press, Boca Raton, Florida 2010<\/li>\n<li>Cooper, Chris,\u00a0<em>Eye Witness Forensic Science<\/em>, DK Publishing, New York 2008<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was struck by a death investigator&#8217;s remark because it seemed to echo our care in forensic work to avoid any perception of bias.\u00a0 I wondered, does a medical examiner need to be on guard investigating death?\u00a0 Like, is there &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/2019\/05\/31\/how-is-death-investigation-like-forensic-engineering-investigation\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7425"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7425"}],"version-history":[{"count":23,"href":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7425\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7451,"href":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7425\/revisions\/7451"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7425"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7425"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.ericjorden.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7425"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}